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Catching Foxes

Atonement Theology NERDFEST with John DeRosa of the Classical Theism Podcast

Catching Foxes

Luke and Gomer

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Tv & Film

4.8769 Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2022

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

(originally aired 08/2021, "What do Catholics Say about the Atonement?" on the Classical Theism Podcast)

John is a fantastic man. He's a high school math teacher at a public school and defends 2,000 years of the Catholic Intellectual Tradition on the side. He really does love the God of classical theism. This was initially aired on his great podcast: Classic Theism Podcast, episode 160.

Here's his show notes about the episode:
What do Catholics believe about the atonement? Why does it matter that some guy died 2000 years ago? How can we distinguish Catholic views from Reformed protestant views of the atonement? How might we understand Leviticus 16, Isaiah 53, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Romans 8:3, and 1 Peter 2:24 in light of the Catholic view? Michael Gormley joins us to tackle these issues head-on.

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0:00.0

Hello, folks. This is Michael Gormley, and I am coming to you sandwiched between my wife's fancy pillows

0:06.3

and my kids' giant squishies that we got from Costco. I mean, these things weigh like 15 pounds of plush.

0:13.8

And I'm doing this because my home office and my new house is, well, let me just say it's very echoey

0:19.9

because there's nothing in here.

0:21.8

So now I'm trying to reduce the echo like a crazy person by holding my kids squishies over my laptop

0:29.1

and talking under my super laptop microphone because I left my...

0:32.1

You know what?

0:32.7

This is just me rambling.

0:34.4

However, today's show I'm very excited about because my buddy, John DeRosa, over at the classical Theism podcast, he gave me permission to reproduce or replay for you all, a show that originally aired episode 160 on his show, the classical Theism podcast, with his interview with me about Atonement theology. He heard on Every Nees

0:56.6

Shall Bow that I liked atonement theology and I was getting into it. And so he decided to have

1:02.1

me on the show. And I was so freaked out because the level of scholars and academics and

1:07.4

just amazing content that he has on the show, I was super intimidated.

1:11.3

So I bought a bunch of books, and some of you who listen to Catching Foxes regularly

1:15.8

know that those books got mentioned periodically on the show.

1:19.8

Well, the whole point of that was because I was terrified of looking like an ass clown

1:23.6

on the classical Theism podcast that I read and researched and just dove into everything,

1:30.0

including Henry, oh, what's his name?

1:32.8

He's got a goofy name.

1:33.7

Henry Nutcombe Oxenham's wonderful book, The Catholic Doctrine of the Atonement.

1:39.4

It's an awesome book.

1:40.6

Anywho, I'm saying all this because he's letting me re-air that show.

1:45.4

Of course, I have to splice in my own ads, but he was very kind in saying, just edit out stuff that kind of is for my show and let a rip.

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