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Plain English with Derek Thompson

Donald Trump vs. the FBI: Everything We Know About the Investigation So Far

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News, News Commentary

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

I've never before recorded an episode specifically about Donald Trump. I guess I’ve been holding out for the chaos that typically swirls around him to exceed an extremely high bar of freaky nonsense. This week, I am forced to conclude that the bar has been surpassed. The January 6 investigations in D.C. and the New York state business investigation are newsworthy on their own. But last week, federal agents descended on Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s private club and Florida home, and came away with a trove of top secret documents and papers. This investigation could implicate the president as an agent of law-breaking espionage. Or it could lead to ... nothing at all. In this episode, the author, CNN analyst, and former government official Juliette Kayyem joins the show to separate fact from speculation and to help us imagine several ways this saga could end. If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com. You can find us on TikTok at www.tiktok.com/@plainenglish_ Host: Derek Thompson Guest: Juliette Kayyem Producer: Devon Manze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Matt Bellini, founding partner of Puck News, and I'm covering the inside conversation

0:05.6

about money and power in Hollywood.

0:08.1

With my new show The Town, I'm going to take you inside Hollywood, with exclusive

0:11.9

insight on what people in show business are actually talking about.

0:15.6

Multiple times a week, I'll talk to some of the smartest people I know, journalists,

0:19.8

insiders, all of whom can break down the hottest topics and entertainment to tell you what's

0:24.0

really going on.

0:26.0

Listen now.

0:31.0

Today, we have to talk about Donald Trump.

0:35.4

So every month is a chaotic month in the world of our former president.

0:40.7

And careful listeners of this podcast will know that we've never done a Trump-specific

0:44.5

episode because I've generally been holding out for the chaos that constantly swirls

0:49.5

around him to surpassed extremely high bar of freaky nonsense.

0:54.6

And this week I am forced to conclude that that bar has been surpassed, and it's been

0:58.7

surpassed because of not one, not two, but three coinciding investigations.

1:05.5

Number one, in Washington, the January 6th Committee is still uncovering evidence that

1:09.7

Trump cheered the invasion of the Capitol and refused pleas to condemn the riots, even

1:15.2

as his own vice president feared for his life.

1:18.1

Number two, in New York, Trump declined repeatedly to answer questions in a New York State investigation

1:23.0

into possible corrupt business practices at the Trump organization.

1:27.5

And number three, with a bullet.

1:30.5

In Florida last week, federal agents descended on Mar-a-Lago, Trump's private club in Florida

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