Donald Trump’s Lawless New World Order. With National Security Analyst Joe Cirincione.
The Bill Press Pod
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4.7 • 601 Ratings
🗓️ 13 January 2026
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Bill talks with Joe Cirincione, an expert on global security. And the unofficial foreign policy guru of The Bill Press Pod. He and Bill discuss the situations in Venezuela, Greenland, Cuba, Iran, Ukraine, Gaza and Minnesota. Cirincione discusses the challenges faced in global security caused by Trump and provides insights into how good policy can shape a safer world. Which is not what’s happening now. To follow Joe's great work, go to JoeCirincione.substack.com .
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, good friends. Good to see you again, and welcome back to the Bill Press |
| 0:11.3 | P. Well, you know, for a man who campaigned for president, promising to put America first, |
| 0:17.6 | stop endless foreign wars, and forget about any regime change. Donald Trump has suddenly |
| 0:24.0 | moved in the opposite direction. He's spending most of his time on foreign policy, whining and |
| 0:30.1 | dining at least one foreign leader in the White House almost every week, and it's not all |
| 0:35.2 | friendly. In the last two weeks alone, he adopted a new administration |
| 0:39.5 | policy asserting the absolute power of the United States over any other country in our sphere |
| 0:46.5 | of influence. In keeping with that so-called Don Roe doctrine, he invaded Venezuela, seized its |
| 0:53.7 | oil tankers on the high seas, and kidnapped |
| 0:56.3 | its president and first lady and whisked them off to a Brooklyn prison. He followed that up by |
| 1:01.7 | warning Cuba, Colombia, and Mexico that they could be next, even suggesting that Marco Rubio |
| 1:08.1 | might be the new president of Cuba. He reasserted his plans to take over Greenland |
| 1:13.5 | by military force if necessary, and he's threatened to intervene in Iran in support of protesters |
| 1:20.4 | rallying against the Iranian government. All of that, we might add, without any consultation |
| 1:27.1 | or support of Congress. |
| 1:30.0 | Yep, it looks like foreign policy run amok, which led us today to invite back on the podcast, |
| 1:36.5 | National Security expert Joe Sirencioni, former head of the Plowshares Fund, to try to put it all in perspective. |
| 1:44.1 | Joe Sierensioni, welcome back to the Bill |
| 1:46.0 | Press Spot. Always good to talk to you. Thank you, Bill. Great to be back. Joe, I want to talk about |
| 1:51.2 | these hotspots around the world, which we always talk about. But I want to go back to the big picture first. |
| 1:56.9 | I've always wondered with MAGA, Make America Great Again, what era they were referring to, right? |
| 2:04.4 | Where they want to go back? |
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