Hey everyone, it's Reid. Before we get started, I think we need to understand a lot of times in life

there's nuance. But sometimes in a fight like this guys, there isn't. There is a good side and

there is a bad side. This is a black and white decision. Re-electing Joe Biden in 2024 means the

continuation of American democracy. And the re-election of Donald Trump means the end of it.

It is that simple everybody. And I know we don't like binary choices, but here we are. And I need

you to do everything you can to keep that in mind and to let your friends and your family and

your colleagues and everybody in America know what the stakes are. It's not just you and me,

it's our kids, it's our grandkids, it's the future of what we want America to be. I'll tell you

this guys, I don't know what happens when Joe Biden gets re-elected, but it gives us opportunities,

it gives us choices to decide how America continues. If Donald Trump gets re-elected,

that's taken away from all of us. And we will enter a period none of us even want to imagine.

And so I want to say thank you to you not only for all you've done and all you're doing,

but all we will do together in the next 12 months. And now on with the show.

Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Jalen. Today I'm joined by Joe Walsh,

former congressman and director of Mission Democracy. Mission Democracy is an organization whose

mission is to educate Americans about the dangers posed by MAGA fascism and to encourage them to

use democracy to help diminish MAGA's influence. Joe is also a former 2020 Republican presidential

candidate, former member of the GOP, and current host of White Flag with Joe Walsh, a great podcast

you can find wherever your favorite shows are found. Joe, good to have you back. Hey Reed, it's always,

I mean this, it's always an honor to be with you buddy. All right, so Joe, I have to start with

your former colleagues in the United States House of Representatives. It looks as we're recording

this now on Wednesday afternoon, late afternoon, Eastern time that Jim Jordan has failed a second time

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