287: Chaos is a Ladder for the GOP with Liam Ker
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🗓️ 17 October 2023
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Host Reed Galen is joined by Liam Kerr, the Co-Founder of Welcome PAC, a Democratic-aligned PAC that applies insurgent tactics to support pro-democracy/center-left candidates in swing districts and also build a “big tent” Democratic party. They discuss the latest in the House Speaker race and the dysfunction around the GOP, why the labels of “moderate” and “centrist” often go hand-in-hand with “spineless” (and how to overcome this), and what possibly unconventional strategies can be deployed to better flip swing districts blue. Plus, Welcome PAC’s “Flip Five” Campaign. For more from Welcome PAC be sure to check out their newsletter, Welcome Stack. For more from Reed, be sure to subscribe to his brand new Substack, The Home Front. If you’d like to ask a question or share a comment with The Lincoln Project, send an email to podcast@lincolnproject.us.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone, it's Reed. Before we get started, I think we need to understand a lot of times in life there's nuance. But sometimes in a fight like this, guys, there isn't. There is a good side and there is a bad side. This is a black and white decision. |
| 0:15.4 | Reelecting Joe Biden in 2024 means the continuation of American democracy. And the re-election of Donald Trump |
| 0:23.1 | means the end of it. It is that simple, everybody. And I know we don't like binary choices, |
| 0:29.5 | but here we are. And I need you to do everything you can to keep that in mind and to let your |
| 0:35.3 | friends and your family and your colleagues and everybody |
| 0:37.8 | in America know what the stakes are. It's not just you and me. It's our kids. It's our grandkids. |
| 0:44.3 | It's the future of what we want America to be. I'll tell you this, guys. I don't know what happens |
| 0:51.7 | when Joe Biden gets reelected, but it gives us opportunities. It gives |
| 0:56.0 | us choices to decide how America continues. If Donald Trump gets reelected, that's taken away from |
| 1:02.1 | all of us. And we will enter a period none of us even want to imagine. And so I want to say thank |
| 1:07.6 | you to you, not only for all you've done and all you're doing, but all we |
| 1:12.4 | will do together in the next 12 months. And now, on with the show. |
| 1:21.3 | Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. |
| 1:29.2 | I'm your host, Reid Yalin. |
| 1:42.2 | Today, I'm joined by Liam Kerr, co-founder of Welcome Pack, a Democratic-Alined PAC that applies insurgent tactics to support pro-democracy and center-left candidates in swing districts and the building of a big-tent Democratic Party. |
| 1:43.7 | Liam, welcome back. |
| 1:44.5 | Great to be here. |
| 1:45.6 | So just before we get into the current fight, |
| 1:49.7 | remind us a little bit about you |
| 1:51.5 | and a little bit about the welcome pack. |
| 1:54.0 | Yeah, so like a lot of mainstream Democrats |
| 1:56.8 | or Team Normal is one way to call our faction |
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