Donald Trump, Empath in Chief
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🗓️ 16 December 2025
⏱️ 98 minutes
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Summary
Trump says the savage murder of Rob and Michele Reiner was the result of their own "Trump Derangement Symptom" and says Reiner was bad for the country. The one real surprise: the number of Republicans in Congress, and even Trump's own social media followers, who denounced the post. Jon, Tommy, and Lovett discuss the Republican pushback and the weekend's (many) other tragedies, including shootings at Brown and Bondi Beach, and the death of two U.S. service members in Syria. Then they look at MAGA voters' growing disappointment with their president, Erika Kirk trying to stop Candace Owens from spreading conspiracy theories about her husband's assassination, and growing speculation about Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom's political futures. Finally, CNN's Jake Tapper talks to Tommy about the fate of his network now that its parent company is for sale, the sham Pentagon press corps, and his new book, "Race Against Terror: Chasing an Al Qaeda Killer at the Dawn of the Forever War."
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| 1:14.3 | There's no safe like SimplySafe. Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm John Favarra. |
| 1:40.2 | I'm John Levitt. |
| 1:40.8 | On today's show, we got another chapter of MAGA in disarray, |
| 1:44.8 | as Candice Owens spreads some truly insane conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk's murder, |
| 1:49.4 | and separately, the MAGA base is getting more and more disappointed with Donald Trump. |
| 1:53.7 | We'll also indulge in some harmless 2028 speculation coming out of the DNC winter meetings here in L.A. |
| 1:59.5 | last week. And bad news, if you were counting on the Washington Post's new AI-generated podcast to stay informed, |
| 2:06.9 | you may want to double-check the quotes and facts you're hearing, if you can believe that. |
| 2:10.7 | Then CNN's Jake Tapper talks to Tommy about the fate of his network now that its parent company is for sale, |
| 2:15.6 | the decimation of the Pentagon Press Corps, and his new book, Race Against Terror, chasing an Al-Qaeda killer in the dawn of the |
| 2:22.3 | Forever War. But let's start with how our government is responding to the onslaught of horrifying |
| 2:28.3 | tragedies over the weekend, both here and around the world. On Saturday, we found out that three |
| 2:33.5 | Americans, two Iowa National Guard soldiers and a civilian |
| 2:36.6 | interpreter were killed in Syria during a counterterrorism mission against ISIS. |
| 2:41.6 | Trump has promised retaliation. |
| 2:43.7 | Hours later, there was a mass shooting in a Brown University econ classroom that killed two |
| 2:48.9 | students and injured nine. |
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