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Can Democrats Fight Trump Without Being Defined by Him? (with Gov. JB Pritzker)

Pod Save America

Crooked Media

News, Politics

4.683.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Governor JB Pritzker visits the studio to talk to Lovett about Trump's Indiana redistricting fail, how Illinois is standing up to ICE's immigration raids, and how the governor's upbringing — a childhood of both privilege and tragedy — shaped his career in politics. Plus, Lovett asks the governor to defend his controversial Star Wars film rankings, quizzes him on some blackjack hands, and asks what we're all thinking: Is he running for President?

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There's no safe like Simplysafe. Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm John Lovett. I just wrapped a conversation with J.B. Pritzker.

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We covered a lot of ground. I really appreciated getting to talk to him. We talked about fighting back against Trump without getting defined by Trump.

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We talked about how our childhoods shape us, including how losses in his own life shaped him and the difference between having money and having

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