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dueling visits to the border yesterday by the incumbent chief executive and by the

45th president of the United States what was the result could there have been a greater contrast between the two?

And what does it bode for the next nine months and for the next four years after that?

No one better to ask and the man who supports us every Friday on National... after that's not

the man who supports us every Friday on national security issues and foreign policy

just for two segments but that's not enough the man who literally wrote the book I taught from

National Defense University on Homeland Security, Jim Carofano,

but now he's tag-teaming with his colleague who runs the Border Security and Immigration Center at the Heritage Foundation.

Laura Reese, welcome also to America First.

Thank you for having me on.

So let's start with last Thursday two very different approaches to immigration security

Jim, correct?

Yeah.

So I'll let Laura jump on it, but I want to brag on Laura for just a second. You know know there's only two things that reasonably

could have gotten done on pushing back against this really incredible immigration

...