Hi, it's Andy here, and welcome to Radio Headspace.

And the Monday morning, I hope you had a good weekend.

One of the lovely things, real privileges of doing the work that I do is I get to chat

to a lot of different people.

I get to hear from a lot of different people, but often about very personal aspects of

their life.

And last week I was talking to someone who had been feeling particularly frustrated and

irritable and angry for quite some time, actually.

So they were asking me sort of how to work with it, how to approach it, and I was asking

them in turn, what was the cause of the frustration, what was the cause of the anger?

And the response back was interesting, and they said, well, because I feel grumpy, and

I don't like feeling grumpy, and it makes me really angry that I'm grumpy.

And so what he's in grumpy is, like, other than frustration and irritability itself.

And as we unpack this, we kind of got to the point of, okay, so you're feeling angry

about feeling angry.

We do this a lot as human beings.

We feel anxious about feeling anxious.

We feel sad about sadness, and you'll maybe recognize this in your own life.

We do it all the time, and there's a reason we do it, and we'll get into that in just

a moment.

But without the thoughts, without the thinking, without the engagement of thinking, we need

to fuel the emotion with our thinking in order to sort of maintain it, to keep it alive.

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