coming up on this episode of The Round Table.

I think that some of us have probably seen the video

of the woman apprehended doing some cross-border trafficking

behaving like a completely possessed individual

on tape with the border guards or whoever

trying to get her handcuffed into a truck.

There's dark stuff out there, and in times of confusion

and despair, not everyone just kills themselves

or turns to the government-sponsored crack pipe.

A lot of people just slip into the really dark places.

Hello and welcome to The Round Table,

your weekly editors and publishers podcast

from the American Mind.

We all gathered together in person last week

at our Claremont headquarters, and this was the opportunity

for me to finally affect my longstanding plan

of unseeding Ryan for good, and that's why you are now stuck

with me, Spencer Clayvin, Associate Editor of Claremont

View Books and Features Editor of the American Mind.

In fact, Ryan will be back next week.

He's just off on some important business.

And so I am joined today by executive editor,

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