Don’t Mess With Texas’s Election Maps
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🗓️ 5 August 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
How Texas redrawing its election maps could set off a gerrymandering arms race across the country—a race the Republicans are likely to win.
Guest: Ari Berman is a voting rights correspondent at Mother Jones.
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| 0:00.0 | In late August 1992, Randy Weaver and his family were refusing to come down from the remote Idaho mountaintop where they lived. |
| 0:09.0 | Weaver, a fugitive on a federal firearms charge, has been hold up in a cabin near Naples for more than a year. |
| 0:15.0 | The government thought Randy Weaver was a dangerous, possibly violent extremist. |
| 0:20.0 | Randy and his wife Vicky thought the government |
| 0:23.0 | was an agent of Satan on earth. When it was all over, three people were dead, and the government |
| 0:29.2 | had spent millions of dollars to catch one man. We'll find out why the siege at Ruby Ridge |
| 0:34.7 | unfolded the way it did, and think about some of the questions it raises. |
| 0:39.4 | What should we do about white supremacists? Why has the story of Ruby Ridge become an enduring |
| 0:45.3 | myth for the far right? And whose fault was it anyway? |
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| 1:06.5 | Like a lot of millennials who came of age during the George W. Bush presidency, there's one thing |
| 1:12.3 | I just know to be true about the lone star state. |
| 1:15.7 | Don't mess with Texas. |
| 1:19.2 | Just for the record, I am not messing with Texas, but I'm starting to feel like maybe this is a one-sided |
| 1:24.6 | relationship, because I'm getting the sense that Texas has no problems |
| 1:28.6 | messing with everyone else. |
| 1:31.7 | Yeah, I feel like I kind of have PTSD from that phrase as well, because I've covered a lot of messes |
| 1:40.1 | in Texas over the years, and what's happening now is the latest iteration of that. |
| 1:46.4 | That's Ari Berman from Mother Jones. |
| 1:49.1 | If you ask me, Ari is the voting rights expert. |
| 1:53.1 | If there's anything happening that impacts our relationship to our elected representatives, |
| 1:58.4 | Ari's reporting is the easiest way to figure out what's going on. |
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