From the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington broadcast center,

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

The Armstrong and Getty show.

It's a disaster and it's a man-made disaster with bad policies and so you obviously are

going to continue to have bad things happen because they're not going to change the policy,

but it should be shut down.

The border should just be shut down.

And that's what you do.

You know, if we were in, if this were like World War II, or they would have shut that down

in 48 hours, our country does not get things done anymore and that's something that we're going to need to change.

That's a governor of Florida, a man named Ron DeSantis, who allegedly has some interest

in running for president.

It was Iowa over the weekend.

This segment is not as much about the border, but about 2024 and who's going to be president.

I find this fascinating as a guy who's really into following the horse race part of running for president.

The media does this thing.

So the New York Times over the weekend had a story just burying DeSantis.

From front page story of what went wrong with the DeSantis campaign,

it's if it's over and let's do the autopsy on how that campaign never got off the ground.

Why DeSantis stumbled to the starting line?

I think it was the headline.

Right. And that was on the Sunday, in the Sunday paper, it was written in the days leading up to it,

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