Don't Call Him El Chapo
Slate News
Slate Podcasts
4.5 • 6K Ratings
🗓️ 31 January 2019
⏱️ 12 minutes
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Summary
Joaquín Guzmán operated in Mexico’s shadows for decades. His trial is shining a spotlight on who the man is and the chaos he sowed on a country . How are Mexicans dealing with the explosive allegations made against former presidents? And what are we all missing by sensationalizing the drug lord's trial?
Guest: León Krauze, Columnist for Slate, co-host of Trumpcast, and news anchor for Univision.
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| 0:00.0 | Can I just start with a really basic question? |
| 0:06.4 | Like, what do you call El Chapo? |
| 0:09.6 | Yeah, that's a great question, actually. |
| 0:12.0 | Leon Krausa is a Mexican journalist. |
| 0:14.2 | He writes for Slate, reports for Univision. |
| 0:16.5 | I try not to call him El Chapo. |
| 0:18.4 | I will during our conversation. |
| 0:20.7 | But I try not to do it, because for me, he does not deserve |
| 0:24.6 | a nickname. |
| 0:28.4 | El Chapo's real name is Joaquin Guzman. |
| 0:31.2 | That man does not deserve a nickname. |
| 0:32.6 | What he deserves is to go to the Supermax facility in Florence, Colorado, and stare at a wall for 23 hours a day. |
| 0:42.6 | For years, Guzman led Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel. |
| 0:46.4 | This week, a jury in Brooklyn began considering the evidence against him, after two months of testimony from dozens of witnesses. |
| 0:54.8 | Is there any chance that you think he's found not guilty? |
| 0:57.6 | No, not at all. Not at all. I think he will be found completely guilty. I mean, the defense |
| 1:04.4 | rested after 30 minutes, which tells you everything you need to know about Guzman and how |
| 1:09.8 | guilty he is. |
| 1:11.2 | Guzman's mistress testified. |
| 1:13.2 | Hit men have taken the stand. |
| 1:14.8 | Even the IT guy was a witness for the prosecution. |
| 1:17.5 | It's as if the most secretive, shadowy figure of our recent history, all of a sudden, |
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