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What did we talk about this episode, Matt?

Well, we talked about possible title, Don and Barbie.

We talked about the indictment against Donald Trump.

But more to the point, we talked about how Donald Trump has kind of changed the boundaries of the conceivable and how that's really altered the way that we think about

democracy. Yeah. And we also gave a good run-through review of Barbie the film. We did, which I think

it's safe to say we both enjoyed. And then we argued about David Badele. And then we had a bit of

domestic about David Badele. And Ophanheimer. David Badele wasn't complaining about

Barbie. No. He was complaining about Oppenheimer.

So far.

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