DOGE's Quest To Reshape Government Continues
The NPR Politics Podcast
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4.5 • 24.9K Ratings
🗓️ 13 February 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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| 0:29.8 | This podcast was recorded at 12.44 p.m. Eastern Time on Thursday, February 13th of 2025. |
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| 0:57.0 | It feels like Upper Midwest Home. I love it. Hey there. It's the NPR Politics podcast. I'm Asma Khalid. I cover the White House. |
| 1:03.5 | And I'm Danielle Kurtzleben. I also cover the White House. And today on the show, we're looking at |
| 1:08.2 | President Trump's efforts to radically remake the federal government. |
| 1:12.6 | It starts in many ways with Doge. We all probably know that that is the entity led by Elon Musk that is digging into federal operations and purportedly trying to cut costs. |
| 1:23.4 | Earlier today, Musk spoke via video at a forum in Dubai about what Doge's ambitions are. |
| 1:30.2 | Well, there's a few ways to describe it, but the actions end up being the same, |
| 1:34.4 | which is like reducing the size of government and making the government much more accountable to the people, |
| 1:42.1 | I think is going to lead to a better outcome for the people. |
| 1:46.5 | You know, what I've said is that we really have here rule of the bureaucracy as opposed to rule of the people, democracy. |
| 1:55.7 | Well, to make sense of this all and to make sense of this moment. We're joined today by a special guest, |
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