Backcountry hunters and anglers podcast and blast. I was here to introduce a guy. I've been looking to get on here for a long time. His name is Derell Smith.

He is a third dog trainer and fine artist and increasingly an outdoor writer based in Douglasville, Georgia.

And Durrell also has a minority outdoor alliance

connecting African Americans and others

in the hunting community. And he has been cutting edge on that particular effort and

Derel is he lives what he speaks and he is a quail, Bob White Quail fanatic, does some guide and does a lot of public land hunting.

He is carrying on a incredible lineage and tradition of bird dog training for Bob White

Quail throughout the South. I think you'll really appreciate hearing this

perspective. Also I'm recording this perspective.

Also, I'm recording this afterwards.

It takes us a while to get to Bird Dogs and whatnot.

We wander through the South and through Southern Art

and through Durrell's work and dogs, dogs,

dogs before we get to the hunting park.

So be patient if you would, and I hope you will enjoy it.

I think the other thing is we discuss a essay written by a friend of mine Claire Thompson and that

essay is called an ecology of disturbance that's on the internet right now. I did not have the name of that

essay while we were talking. So take a look at that. I think it's pretty good. It has relevance to what Durrell and I are discussing in the

first part of this podcast and then definitely also check out Durrell's work on

outdoor life on the internet.

One of the reasons I knew I had to get him

was he wrote a beautiful piece about a single shot in 410

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