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Does Venezuela Really Hold $60B in Bitcoin?

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🗓️ 6 January 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Mauricio Di Bartolomeo explains why Venezuela is unlikely to have a $60B bitcoin reserve. Ledn co-founder Mauricio Di Bartolomeo says the rumors surrounding Venezuela's alleged $60 billion bitcoin "shadow reserve," are very unlikely. Drawing on his personal history in the country, including the day his family’s mining facility was seized by the government, Mauricio explains why systemic corruption and failing infrastructure make a treasury of this size nearly impossible. - Read more: https://www.coindesk.com/opinion/2026/01/06/don-t-hold-your-breath-for-venezuela-s-bitcoin - Check out CoinDesk’s research report on the State of Blockchain 2025 commissioned by Input Output Group: https://www.coindesk.com/research/state-of-the-blockchain-2025 - Timecodes: 00:00 The Escape from Venezuela 01:39 Bitcoin Mining in Venezuela 03:36 Government Crackdown on Miners 06:03 Debunking the $60 Billion Bitcoin Stash 10:39 Corruption and Mismanagement - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

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0:00.0

They got to my family's mining facility in January 18th, 2018.

0:05.3

And from that point, my family had to make the decision to leave the country.

0:10.0

And my brother, who was the only one in my family in the country at the time,

0:13.4

had to flee that night with his wife and two kids and was only really able to do so

0:18.5

because so much of his wealth at that point had already been ported to Bitcoin

0:22.4

that he could take with himself through the border. And that gave our family a chance to rebuild

0:27.3

outside of Venezuela and the free world.

0:35.2

Value capture is shifted away from layer ones.

0:38.0

A new CoinDesk research report reveals that while layer one still holds 90% of market cap,

0:43.3

they now capture only 12% of on-chain fees.

0:46.5

Explore the structural changes defining 2026 from Bitcoin's post-quantum risks and Ethereum's roll-up economics

0:53.0

to the new era of compliant privacy with input outputs midnight at coindesk.com forward slash research.

1:00.3

Hey, everyone, you're watching CoinDesk. I'm Jen Sanassi. A massive $60 billion Bitcoin stash. That's the rumor currently swirling around the Venezuelan regime.

1:10.3

But our next guest says

1:11.8

not so fast. He argues that government corruption and incompetence makes a treasury of that size

1:17.1

nearly impossible. Joining us now is Leden co-founder Maurizio di Bartolomeo. Hey, Marizio. Hey, Jan, great to see you.

1:25.1

Great to have you here.

1:30.5

Venezuela is really all we've been talking about.

1:31.9

You were born and raised there.

1:35.0

Your own family's mining equipment was seized by the government.

1:36.7

That's why I want to start our conversation today.

1:38.5

Talk to me about what happened.

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