Does Venezuela Really Hold $60B in Bitcoin?
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🗓️ 6 January 2026
⏱️ 16 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | They got to my family's mining facility in January 18th, 2018. |
| 0:05.3 | And from that point, my family had to make the decision to leave the country. |
| 0:10.0 | And my brother, who was the only one in my family in the country at the time, |
| 0:13.4 | had to flee that night with his wife and two kids and was only really able to do so |
| 0:18.5 | because so much of his wealth at that point had already been ported to Bitcoin |
| 0:22.4 | that he could take with himself through the border. And that gave our family a chance to rebuild |
| 0:27.3 | outside of Venezuela and the free world. |
| 0:35.2 | Value capture is shifted away from layer ones. |
| 0:38.0 | A new CoinDesk research report reveals that while layer one still holds 90% of market cap, |
| 0:43.3 | they now capture only 12% of on-chain fees. |
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| 1:00.3 | Hey, everyone, you're watching CoinDesk. I'm Jen Sanassi. A massive $60 billion Bitcoin stash. That's the rumor currently swirling around the Venezuelan regime. |
| 1:10.3 | But our next guest says |
| 1:11.8 | not so fast. He argues that government corruption and incompetence makes a treasury of that size |
| 1:17.1 | nearly impossible. Joining us now is Leden co-founder Maurizio di Bartolomeo. Hey, Marizio. Hey, Jan, great to see you. |
| 1:25.1 | Great to have you here. |
| 1:30.5 | Venezuela is really all we've been talking about. |
| 1:31.9 | You were born and raised there. |
| 1:35.0 | Your own family's mining equipment was seized by the government. |
| 1:36.7 | That's why I want to start our conversation today. |
| 1:38.5 | Talk to me about what happened. |
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