Does Trump Have the Patience to Win a War?

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🗓️ 24 April 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Steve Hayes is joined by Jonah Goldberg, David French, and Kevin Williamson to discuss the Trump administration's ongoing negations with Iran, FBI Director Kash Patel's alleged excessive drinking, and Justice Clarence Thomas' recent speech at the University of Texas. The Agenda: —Is the end near? —Consequences of Trump's impatience —Bad negotiating strategy —⁠Kash Patel's drinking⁠ —⁠Investigating 2020 election fraud⁠ —⁠Justice Thomas' speech on progressivism⁠ —NWYT: ⁠Tucker Carlson's apology⁠ Dispatch Recommendations: —⁠Online Gambling Is Breaking Containment ⁠—⁠The Son Also Rises⁠ —⁠Overturning Religious Precedent⁠ —⁠The emergency docket’s mistaken birthday⁠ Show notes: —⁠John McCormack's reporting on Tucker Carlson⁠ —⁠Steve Hayes' piece on Tucker Carlson⁠ The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Dispatch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of our articles, members-only newsletters, and bonus podcast episodes—⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠by clicking here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm Steve Hayes. On today's roundtable, we'll discuss the
0:12.0	state of the Trump administration's diplomacy with Iran, FBI director Cash Patel's alleged excessive
0:18.0	drinking, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's recent speech
0:22.2	at the University of Texas.
0:23.9	I'm joined today by my dispatch colleagues,
0:26.0	Jonah Goldberg, Kevin Williamson,
0:28.3	and dispatch contributor and New York Times writer, David French.
0:32.7	Let's dive in.
0:33.4	Music Welcome, gentlemen. I want to start with Iran.
0:48.8	The U.S. and Iran extended the ceasefire.
0:51.8	Iran seized two cargo ships. The Secretary of Defense fired the Secretary of the Navy.
0:58.7	And President Trump, after saying for weeks the war was won and nearly over, told Fox News,
1:04.3	there's, quote, no time pressure to hold new diplomatic talks with Iran and, quote, no timeline for the end of the war. David, it does not
1:13.7	sound like the end is near. No, it doesn't sound like the end is near, and it doesn't sound like
1:18.9	we really actually know what the end is going to look like. One of the things that we've seen
1:23.9	over the last several days is the president just blurting out things time and time
1:30.0	again. Sometimes they're true. Often they're not true. Sometimes about the state of the negotiations that
1:35.2	are not true. And the reporting seems to indicate that him blurting out things is actually
1:39.4	impacting the negotiations a great deal. I mean, part of the problem here is that you have had years and years and years of boasting
1:48.3	from Trump that the Obama deal was the worst thing ever, that all it takes is a good negotiator
1:54.4	to walk in and can absolutely do something better.
1:57.5	You had the Obama people saying for years and years, well, the best we could do was this.
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