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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Does the average American have fewer than three friends?

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Tim Harford is here to sprinkle a refreshing shower of statistical insight over the parched lawns of misinformation.

This week, we try to unpick the confusion over a claim made by London Mayor Sadiq Khan about the contribution skilled immigrants make to the nation?s finances.

Mark Zuckerberg says that the average American has fewer than 3 friends. Is he right?

Two doctors claim that up to 90% of Alzheimer?s disease can be prevented. Are they wrong?

And Tim interviews an American, Catholic, philosopher of religion called Robert Prevost. Is he the pope?

If you?ve seen a number in the news you think we should look at, email the team ? [email protected]

More or Less is produced in partnership with the Open University.

Presenter: Tim Harford Reporter: Lizzy McNeill Producers: Nicholas Barrett and Nathan Gower Series producer: Tom Colls Production co-ordinator: Brenda Brown Sound mix: Nigel Appleton Editor: Richard Vadon

Transcript

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0:00.0

Why do some big successful brands go bust?

0:05.0

Toast is back for a new series, taking a look at the decisions that often left investors burnt.

0:11.0

I'm Sean Farrington, a BBC business journalist. I'll be hearing about the hype.

0:15.0

They're going to do the deal that makes them the most money at that point of time.

0:19.0

And I'm picking what went wrong, talking to owners

0:22.5

and employees to ask, what can we learn? It was being undercut by similar rivals. It just couldn't

0:29.2

survive. Toast. Listen first on BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts. Hello and welcome to a brand new series of more or less,

0:42.4

the show that sprinkles a refreshing shower of statistical insight

0:46.3

over the parched lawns of misinformation.

0:49.8

This week, Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook says that most people don't have many friends.

0:55.8

We'll leave that claim there for now.

0:58.9

Two enthusiastic doctors reckon that 90% of cases of Alzheimer's disease can be prevented,

1:05.2

which is huge, if it's true.

1:08.0

We speak to someone who's almost the new Pope about the statistical evidence

1:13.0

for the existence of God. But first, claims about what immigrants contribute to the exchequer.

1:20.3

Loyal listener Barney got in touch to ask about a claim he heard London Mayor Sadiq Khan make on

1:26.5

LBC.

1:34.0

A skilled migrants family will contribute to the British economy £12,000 a year.

1:36.9

That's when you take away public services they use.

1:45.5

A British skilled workers family takes from the economy £4,400 when you include public services they use.

1:51.7

Barney wondered if we could check these numbers and explain them. Sure thing, Barney. The figures come from the Migration Advisory Committee's annual report. As it happens, Madeline Sumption,

1:58.1

friend of the programme and director of Oxford University's Migration Observatory,

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