Does Pop Culture Give a F*#% about Friendship?
The Sam Sanders Show
KCRW & Sam Sanders
4.9 • 709 Ratings
🗓️ 22 August 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
BFF’s Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays (Text Me Back! Podcast) dive into what pop culture gets right (and wrong) about friendships.
The duo share their hot takes with Sam, make a case for renaming Love Island to Friendship Island, and ask if MTV’s The Real World ruined the country. Plus, should some problematic celebrities (cough *Cardi B* cough) get a pass for being too real?
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| 0:20.2 | Hey, y'all, it's the Sam Sanders show from KCRW, where we ask big questions and offer up hot takes on the pop culture we love. |
| 0:32.2 | Thank you so much for listening. |
| 0:34.4 | This week, friendship. |
| 0:36.7 | It's something we see a lot on screen in reality shows |
| 0:40.6 | and sitcoms. We even see a bunch of friendship in like police procedurals. Friendship is everywhere, |
| 0:48.9 | but does the friendship we see on screen actually mirror the way friendship works in real life. |
| 0:55.9 | I break down that question with two guests this episode. |
| 0:58.9 | Writer and comedian Lindy West. |
| 1:00.8 | I'm the famous podcaster, Lindy West. |
| 1:03.8 | And I am, I'm a writer and I have a podcast famously. |
| 1:08.6 | And most importantly, best friend of Megan Hatcher-Maze. Lawyer and democracy friend of Megan Hatcher-Maze. |
| 1:11.9 | Lawyer and Democracy expert, Megan Hatcher-Maze. |
| 1:15.6 | Yes, that's me. |
| 1:16.5 | I'm Megan Hatcher-Maze. |
| 1:17.6 | Co-host of the acclaimed podcast, Text Me Back, where Liddy and I just kind of talk about |
| 1:23.4 | friendship. |
| 1:24.4 | These two have been best friends for more than two decades. Such good friends that they |
| 1:30.0 | even have a friendship podcast. It's called Text Me Back. All right, this episode, some hot takes |
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