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. Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.

My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Jeremy Gilbert.

With the prospect of another potential Labour by-election loss in Batley and Spend next month,

we chatted about the prospect of the Labour Party facing further erosion in its support

and whether the Kirstama Project is even about winning elections

or if in fact the goal is simply to defeat and marginalise the Labour left.

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One that you might like to check out is Clean Living Under Difficult Circumstances,

Finding a Home in the Ruins of Modernism by Owen Hathalie.

From the grandiose histories of monumental state-building projects,

to the minutiae of street

signs and corner cafes, from the rebuilding of capital cities to the provision of the humble

public toilet, clean living under difficult circumstances, a new collection of Owen Hathalie's

writing, argues for the city as a socialist project. Spanning the period from immediately

before the 2008 financial crash to the

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