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Clean living under difficult circumstances w/ Owen Hatherley

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4.8551 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Owen Hatherley joins PTO to discuss a new career spanning collection of his writings, Clean Living Under Difficult Circumstances. We talked about the early 2000s blogging scene as a reaction to New Labour, Owen's writings on music and how Black Box Recorder's work seemed to anticipate the world of Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson. And finally, we talked about Owen's review of K-Punk - the collected writings of Mark Fisher - and the strange phenomenon of American leftists seeing Fisher as a "class first" social democrat, shorn of his theoretical touchstones.

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The first cut on this record has been cross-format focused for Airplay success.

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The men beat on their drums. I'm going to be. I'm going to I'm going to

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I'm going to

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the Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.

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My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Owen Hathley.

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We talked about a newly published

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collection of his writings, clean living under difficult circumstances, finding a home in the

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ruins of modernism. We chatted about Owen's early experience of writing in the left blog scene of the

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early 2000s, why he came to write primarily on architecture and urban design rather than one of

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his other passions, pop music.

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And at the end of the interview, we talked about Owen's review of K-punk, the collected writings

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of his friend Mark Fisher. If you would like to hear the extended 70-minute version of today's

1:21.1

interview, then please consider becoming a £3 supporter of the show on Patreon. Go to patreon.com

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1:31.1

Today's show is brought to you by PTO supporters on Patreon and also by Verso Books who have lots

1:36.1

of excellent titles that may be of interest to PTO listeners. One that you might like to check out

1:41.0

is The Revenge of the Real Politics for a Post-Pandemic World by

1:45.5

Benjamin Bratton. COVID-19 exposed the pre-existing conditions of the current global crisis.

1:51.6

Many Western states failed to protect their populations, while others were able to suppress

1:55.9

the virus only with sweeping social restrictions. In contrast, many Asian countries were able to make much more precise interventions.

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What lessons are to be learned?

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The Revenge of the Reveld by Benjamin Bratton

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