La La La La, la, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. La La La La, nah, oh, Greg Kokel here at Stanton, and thank you for joining me today.

I had a very interesting time, as I usually do on the weekend with a church.

Actually, the next two weekends I have Clear, which is unusual.

I'll be home, and I can go to my own church this weekend, but I gave a seminar on Saturday

and had wonderful time with wonderful people that is characteristic

for the great churches and people I get to meet when I'm on the road.

I also had a conversation with a young man who was 17 years old, very precocious, and had some questions about a number of things.

And over lunch, we talked about them. And he did raise a point with me somewhat directly, which was fine, that he did not believe in eternal security.

Now, apparently he wanted to knock that idea around a little bit, get my opinion about that.

And so we went to a passage, and I want to talk about that passage as we start the show out.

And I don't want to talk about it for the sake of making a case

for my own view, which is that, simply put, I think that the miracle of regeneration is irreversible.

That is, stipulating someone is actually saved, there is no way to undo that.

And there's more theology for me that goes behind it, since I believe in sovereign grace,

therefore there's going to be security in light of God's choice of us.

That's actually not the point here.

What I was trying to do is not disabuse this young man of his conviction.

And especially, here it is lunch, I'm giving the seminar, and it puts me in the awkward position of potentially look like I'm looking like I'm beating up with a teenager, and I'm trying to strong arm into my point

of view, and I did not want to do that at all, but I did want to get him thinking,

put a stone at issue, so to speak, on a theological issue that

I thought at least at one point was poorly justified.

And that isn't to speak to the whole issue, which is what I told him.

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