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Unbelievable?

Does God Exist? Shaun Stevenson vs Nathan Elvidge hosted by Andy Kind

Unbelievable?

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In this special Unbelievable? debate, recorded live at Waddesdon High School, Andy Kind moderates a lively exchange between philosopher Dr Shaun Stevenson and Oxford doctoral candidate Nathan Elvidge on one of life’s biggest questions: Does God exist? From the origins of religious belief to the grounding of morality, the two thinkers spar over whether right and wrong can be explained without God, the problem of evil, and whether concepts like “absolute morality” require a divine lawgiver. Along the way, they tackle Spinoza, slavery, free will, the Garden of Eden, and even whether “evil” itself is an illusion. Engaging, challenging, and thought-provoking, this conversation brings philosophy into the classroom, offering students and listeners alike a window into one of humanity’s oldest debates. 👉 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes - absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 🎉📢 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://www.premier.plus/unbelievable • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training SOCIAL LINKS Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable

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0:00.0

Children face unimaginable hardship worldwide.

0:03.0

But each Christmas, thanks to you, they receive great joy and the good news of Jesus in a shoebox.

0:09.0

My name is Desireenana.

0:11.0

Receiving the shoebox at eight years old was a really blessing for me.

0:15.0

It was just full of goodies.

0:17.0

God has being so faithful to me.

0:20.0

An Operation Christmas Child's shoebox gift isn't just toys.

0:23.6

It shows a child that God loves them.

0:26.0

Take yours to a drop-off point between November 10th and 17th.

0:29.5

So thank you so much for packing shoebox.

0:32.3

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0:35.9

Search Samaritanspurse.org.ukes

0:39.3

slash premiere.

0:40.3

Hello, welcome to Unbelievable, the show that gets Christians and non-Christians talking about the subjects that matter to all of us.

0:48.3

I'm your host, Andy Kai, and today we are in the surroundings, and we literally are surrounded at Wadsden High School and the students of which are now going to give a massive round of applause.

1:03.0

It's like being Taylor Swift. Anyway, I've been joined today by two very clever chaps we have on my left, Dr. Sean Stevenson, both philosophers,

1:14.6

and on my right, Mr. Nathan Elvich. And we're talking today about an easy question,

1:20.6

does God exist? We're looking at the existence of God. So we'll start with a bit of back story.

1:25.6

Sean, coming to you first. Can you just give people an idea of how you got to the place that you're at in terms of world view?

1:33.3

Yeah, so I grew up in a household that wasn't particularly religious.

1:38.3

And when I reached around the age of 13, I started trying to figure out what's my place in the world.

1:45.1

That's when I came across this book, the Holy Bible, and worked away reading that for years and

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