Does Everything Happen For a Reason?

the goop podcast

Gwyneth Paltrow

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Education

4.3 • 7.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

“You’re desperate to find causality even where there is none,” says Kate Bowler. She’s a historian at Duke Divinity School and the author of a memoir called Everything Happens for a Reason: And Other Lies I’ve Loved. And she makes us laugh, even when she’s talking about death, dying, and grief. In this episode, Bowler tells Elise Loehnen about what happened after she was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer in her mid-thirties. She shares the moments she stopped feeling like a person, the pressure she felt to be “the best” cancer patient, to find explanations, to treat everything as a lesson that she needed to learn. She talks about how her beliefs eventually shifted. And how, perhaps the biggest lesson is that it’s not always on us to figure it all out. “I was never a problem to be solved,” says Bowler. “I was just a person to be loved.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Elise Loonon, co-host with Gwyneth of the Goop podcast.
0:08.5	Today's guest is Kate Boller.
0:11.2	But before we get to my conversation with her, I want to thank our friends at Sikara,
0:15.2	who helped make today's episode possible.
0:22.3	We just hosted a wellness event at our headquarters here in LA.
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0:44.4	like your best self, and above all, they believe that food is a lifestyle, not a diet.
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1:08.3	Don't hold anything too tightly.
1:13.9	Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the intention of real truth for you, and then
1:20.7	let it go.
1:22.4	For me, our soul is like it's unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves.
1:29.7	When people stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming, we turn
1:36.1	to ourselves, and that's where you become empowered.
1:39.4	Courageous participation attracts positive things.
1:44.8	I'm Gwyneth Paltrow.
1:46.4	This is the Goop podcast, bringing together thought leaders, culture changers, creatives,
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