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Doe ID: 'Gacy Victim 5' Francis Wayne Alexander

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AbJack Entertainment

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Episode 54 Doe ID: 'Gacy Victim 5' Francis Wayne Alexander

When more than 2 dozen male bodies were unearthed in the crawlspace of serial killer John Wayne Gacy's home in the Norwood Park suburb of Chicago in the late 1970's, Gacy's gruesome and twisted crime spree came to an end. But just because the killer was behind bars, the work of the investigators continued as they painstakingly tried to identify all of the remains. Over the years, most of the victims were identified, all but a handful. As DNA science evolved, it soon became clear that forensic genealogy may be able to help ID the rest, and in this episode we cover the case of one of those victims who was given his name back thanks to this technology. For years he was known as 'Gacy Victim 5'. We now know his name to be Francis Wayne Alexander, and this is his story.

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0:00.0

Fall is here and classes back in session. It's a busy time for students and faculty, and with a new school year comes new adventures, new experiences, and new goals to achieve.

0:09.3

But as much promise and excitement as the fall semester brings, there can also be a dark side to it, one in which the unthinkable can happen.

0:16.3

I'm Amy Slashberg. And I'm Megan Sacks, and we're the host of the podcast, Campus Killings. As educators and

0:22.1

criminologists, we teach, research, right, and podcast about victims, offenders, and the issues that

0:27.7

surround our criminal justice system. Amy and I have both worked in the field of criminal justice

0:31.8

for 20 years. Myself in law enforcement and Amy in the mental health field. In campus killings, we'll dive into some of the most shocking and tragic murders to happen on school grounds

0:42.0

and will provide our analysis on the cases we cover as both educators and trained criminologists.

0:47.3

We'll discuss what went wrong and what could have been done differently to prevent the tragic outcome.

0:52.1

Campus killings is available everywhere you listen to podcasts.

0:55.3

Subscribe now so you don't miss a single episode of Campus Killings.

0:58.9

You're listening to DNAID.

1:01.9

Brought to you by Abject Entertainment,

1:04.1

be sure to check out some of the other great true crime podcasts from this network,

1:08.6

including The Murder in My Family, Missing Persons, Scene of

1:12.8

the Crime, Zodiac speaking, Beyond Bizarre True Crime, Citizen Detective, and Campus Killings.

1:20.8

All of these podcasts are available for you to binge on right now, wherever you listen to podcasts.

1:26.3

Subscribe where you're listening to this podcast so you don't

1:29.3

miss an episode. I'd guess that most of my listeners are at least a little bit familiar with the serial killer John Wayne Gacy.

2:09.9

But did you know that five of his 33 known victims remain unidentified?

2:15.1

The recent identification of one of Gacy's victims provided answers to a family which

2:20.8

has been wondering about the fate of their loved one for 50 years. I'm not going to go into the

2:26.9

whole sordid saga of John Wayne Gacy's depraved crimes, but to provide a little context, John Wayne

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