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Doctor Diagnosed with Terminal Cancer Shares Life Lessons People Learn Too Late with Mark Goulston, MD

Dhru Purohit Show

Dhru Purohit

Medicine, Health & Fitness, Alternative Health

4.7 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2023

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

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If you had the opportunity to reflect on your life, relationships, and the legacy you would like to leave the world with, what reflections would you have, and what wisdom would you share on living a content and peaceful life? Would your answers change if you knew your death was impending, and what would you prioritize in your remaining days?


Today, on The Dhru Purohit Podcast, Dhru sits down with Dr. Mark Goulston to discuss the lessons that dying has imparted on him and that he is eager to share with the world. Dr. Goulston shares exercises and practices that can help us be better listeners, build awareness, and create genuine curiosity to make better connections.


Dr. Mark Goulston is a retired psychiatrist and a specialist in the field of death and dying who is currently confronting his own mortality. He’s also a former FBI and police hostage negotiation trainer. He is the author or co-author of ten books, with his book, Just Listen, ranking as the top book on listening worldwide. He also hosts his highly-rated podcast, My Wakeup Call. He's renowned as the inventor of Surgical Empathy, an approach he employed with suicidal patients. 


In this episode, Dhru and Dr. Goulston dive into (audio version / Apple Subscriber version):

  • Dr. Goulston’s career and practice, and how he found peace in confronting his terminal diagnosis  (2:20 / 2:20) 
  • Dr. Goulston’s diagnosis of leukemia and the treatment he is undergoing (9:44 / 6:45) 
  • Wisdom from Dr. Goulston’s late father (14:05 / 10:48)
  • Actual vulnerability and how Dr. Goulston believes he is “giving to live” (19:17 / 16:11)
  • The importance of making sure friends and family feel loved by you (26:35 / 24:00)
  • A key question to create connection (28:16 / 25:40)
  • Dr. Goulston’s mentor’s advice on the criteria for having a good death (34:50 / 32:07)
  • Myths about dying, acceptance and surrendering to the idea of dying and the peace of mind you feel (41:04 / 38:05)
  • What prohibits people from prioritizing connection in life (43:25 / 41:16)
  • The importance of listening and how it creates awareness and curiosity (48:58 / 46:36)
  • Using the HUVA exercise (58:00 / 55:06)
  • Prove, Show, Hide, and Please exercise and eliminating those from your personality (1:02:00 / 59:40)
  • The FUD CRUD technique to invite frustrations out without judgment (1:17:00 / 1:14:00) 
  • Dr. Goulston’s ideas on self-forgiveness and letting go of what he felt he did not achieve (1:24:00 / 1:21:04)
  • Dr. Goulston’s belief that he exists as a catalyst to help people heal (1:44:25 / 1:41:29)


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0:00.0

Welcome to the Drew Prote podcast. Each week we explore the inner workings of the brain and the body with one of the brightest minds and wellness, medicine, and mindset.

0:08.0

This week's guest is Dr. Mark Gulston. Dr Gulston is a retired psychiatrist and specialist in the field of death and dying, who is currently

0:17.1

confronting his own mortality. The prospects of dying has imparted lessons upon him that life never did, lessons that could have changed his life.

0:27.3

Now he's eager to share these insights with us and the world so others don't have to experience death to learn from them.

0:35.1

He states that he's in the best emotional and physiological state he's ever been in and he continues

0:40.8

to improve each day even as his illness which he'll expand upon in the interview

0:46.4

becomes more and more serious.

0:48.7

Now a little bit more about Dr. Goulston in addition to being a retired psychiatrist, he's also a former FBI and police

0:56.5

hostage negotiation trainer. He is the author and co-author of 10 books with his best-selling book Just Listen,

1:06.0

ranking as the top book on listening worldwide.

1:09.6

He is also the host of his highly rated podcast, My Wake Up Call, and he's renowned as the inventor of surgical

1:17.2

empathy and approach and modality he employed with suicidal patients.

1:21.7

Dr. Golston is proud to say that in his 30-year

1:25.2

career none of his patients died by suicide. Stay tuned for a

1:30.3

fascinating and deeply moving episode on what it truly means to be alive from Dr Mark

1:37.0

Golsden.

1:40.0

Dr. Mark Golsen, it's a pleasure to have you here. In the opening video for your new series, you

1:46.4

shared something quite shocking with your viewers. In the series, which is called, I'm dying to tell to tell you you shared I'm going to be dying much sooner

1:56.6

than I thought I would and what each day is revealing to me is profound It's something I never realized and most importantly I'm going

2:07.8

to be sharing that with you. Mark can you help us understand by sharing a little bit of context, as well as what has compelled

2:19.5

you to document this sad touching and yet beautiful process of dying that you're currently going through.

2:29.0

I'm a retired psychiatrist and I was a death and dying specialist.

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