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Hi I'm Shuka Calantari. I'm the senior producer of the Science of

Happiness. On this week's episode guest host Serena Chen who's the

Psychology Department chair at UC Berkeley,

talks with Becky and Christine Margiata about being more present and patient with the loved ones.

In this case, they're two little kids.

We recorded their interview before COVID-19 came to the States,

which is why you won't hear any reference to the pandemic.

But the lessons they take away from the practice still feel really relevant today.

Enjoy the show.

I want another water by the wall.

For me, I wasn't super on the have kids bandwagon. I thought the whole perk of being gay

was you didn't have to have kids. And Christina's nine years younger than I am and

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