We were talking earlier and you talked about third grade is what you started really realizing.

For everybody here, so many people that I've met today really exude a lot of passion.

They're passionate about the space, about their brand, about their process, about their homies, about the Macro, the Micro.

For you, how are you able to take such an extreme passion and turn it into your professional career?

What were the two hurdles to one hurdle that actually allowed you to do something I think all of us want to do?

Yeah, great question.

I mean, I do actually have a extreme passion about music, in particular hip-hop and freeside, since third grade, since I was a little kid.

And it's something I was working on the whole life.

I think the biggest hurdle for you, as I'm practicing and developing and getting better and better at studying and doing this with my close homies,

the biggest hurdle for me was my own sort of fear and insecurity.

And for me, I've manifested in the form of a professional, you know, in my mind for so much of my life, into my twenties.

Regardless of what my friends say, who you're so fucking dope off the top, you should go do this, you should make this what you do.

In my mind, it's not good enough yet.

I mean, it needs more work, it needs more development. I didn't feel like I was ready to show it.

And since I turned out, the biggest hurdle was really just me.

On that note, one of the things that I really believe is that people, and there's a lot of people in this room that are going to resonate with this,

people that say, Gary, you don't get it on the perfectionist.

The way my brain takes that is, no, you don't get it, you're scared.

You're scared to put it out, and you're trying to make a clip cute by saying you're a perfectionist.

That just make up for insecurity.

And that's what you're basically saying.

I'm a creator, you know, and things that you're putting out for me is horrible.

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