The Michael Berry show Heart Disease kills more people in America than anything else and

cholesterol is the reason for it. That's the medical development that now drives almost all of medicine. That's the

conventional wisdom. You can't question that. You'd have to be a cooque to question that, right? It would be like questioning the COVID vaccine or maybe like suggesting

we use that horse pace Ivermectin to treat COVID and claim that it's successful.

Question everything all the time.

I teach my kids that.

It's part of curiosity, it's part of the scientific method. There is a fellow by the name of

Johnny Bowden. He calls himself the nutrition myth buster. He makes a lot of headlines by challenging people to think anew about

established ideas. We used to think that's a wonderful thing, but now the medical establishment, pharmaceutical

establishment, the food industry, they have grown so powerful over political and media

outlets that the sheer act of asking a question is somehow

threatening. It's frightening to them. Well it's not frightening to me.

Johnny Bowden is our guest. You can find out more about him.

He spells Johnny J-O-N-N-Y. Johnny Bowden.com. I've been hyping this conversation for a little bit to get some of you to send me emails

and I've been overwhelmed so I won't be able to get to all your questions. His book is, his most recent book,

is The Great Cholesterol Myth myth while lowering your cholesterol won't prevent heart disease

and the statin free plan that will.

He doesn't like statins either.

Johnny Bowdoin, I have many questions,

but first of all, let me start with this idea.

You don't mind saying things that are perceived by certain powerful establishment communities

as radical, do you?

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