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Moral Maze

Do we need a final farewell?

Moral Maze

BBC

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.5609 Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

The way we grieve is changing and that is seen most starkly by the rise of the direct cremation and the no fuss funeral. I in 5 people of people opted for a direct cremation last year, a startling figure that’s risen 3 fold in 5 years. At it’s most basic the direct cremation means the final journey is purely functional. Body taken unaccompanied to an unknown crematorium. You can even get the ashes posted back through the letterbox. It's cheaper and you can mark the last hurrah with a party or memorial service or perhaps even nothing at all. What does this changing trend say about our respect for human dignity as a society or is this just another step in the removal of religion from the lives of a significant part of the population.

Only a quarter of people in the UK now want a religious funeral. The rise of direct cremation could also be a sign that mourners are throwing off the shackles of inherited tradition and religious belief to decide how they want to grieve. Direct cremations and DIY celebrations cut out the reality of death and if there’s no grieving at the graveside or standing in a crematorium what do we lose? There's another aspect to consider. The digital afterlife is one where someone never leaves. Grieftech can keep us in touch with AI loved ones . Instead of the finality of a funeral we could be conversing forever with the deceased. Do we need a final farewell?

Presenter: William Crawley Panellists: Anne McElvoy, James Orr, Matthew Taylor, Ella Whelan Witnesses: Rosie Millard, Dr Madeleine Pennington, Justin Harrison, Prof Linda Wheeler. Producer: Catherine Murray & Peter Everett Assistant Producer: Ruth Purser Editor: Rajeev Gupta

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

Thanks very much. Hello. Do you care what happens to your body after death?

0:09.8

Whether you're buried or cremated, whether there's a ceremony or a ritual or a final sending off?

0:16.0

And even though very few of us would aspire to an elaborate state funeral,

0:20.4

even a basic funeral these days can

0:22.6

price a lot of people out of the market. Whether you call it a grief tax or a form of funeral

0:28.1

inflation, the rising cost of living has produced a cost of dying crisis for families across the

0:34.4

country. Since 2019, we've seen a threefold increase in what is sometimes

0:40.2

described as a direct cremation or a direct burial. What does that mean? The body is not embalmed,

0:46.5

no mourners are present, no rituals are carried out, no words are said. It's cheaper, it's faster.

0:52.9

It requires little or none of the preparations

0:55.7

associated with a traditional funeral, from awake to the final committal. And for some people,

1:01.6

the attraction of a no-frills exit isn't just financial. Perhaps they've abandoned religion,

1:07.9

if they ever had any. Or maybe they have no interest in rituals.

1:12.3

They might even try to elude death itself with an AI-generated avatar that continues to speak

1:18.3

after death itself. Grief tech, it's called, by the way, and it is already a thing.

1:23.7

Just think, instead of the finality of a funeral, you could be conversing forever with the deceased.

1:29.8

But when it comes right down to it, who is a funeral really for?

1:34.6

Do our changing choices suggest that we are becoming a society that no longer values a proper send-off?

1:42.2

And what does it say about us if we stop saying goodbye?

1:46.2

Tonight's Moral Mays, our panel, James Orr, Associate Professor of Philosophy of Religion at Cambridge,

1:52.1

the feminist commentator Ellen Weillan, Anne McElvoy, journalist with the news and commentary

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