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Hello, welcome to factually, I'm Adam Conover,

and in case you haven't noticed, we're in the middle of a massive protest movement right now.

In response to the brutal murder of George Floyd and countless other African Americans at the hands

of law enforcement, there's been an outpouring of protest and unrest

around this country, unlike anything I've ever seen in my lifetime. Let me remind you, it's

also happening in the middle of a historic goddamn pandemic. In every major

city in America protesters are going toe to toe with cops who have responded

with disturbing violence, attacking peaceful protesters with tear gas and

rubber bullets and using tactics that seem designed to escalate conflict

rather than de-escalate it. And at the same time we've seen massive peaceful protests be followed in many cases by

arson and looting. These images of violence have resulted in a frantic even somewhat

obsessive concern in the media and some segments of the public

with what the quote right way to protest is. And that's a hard question to answer. I mean, we can't even figure

out if posting a black square on

Instagram in solidarity is good or bad. So the question of what role violence plays in

protest is even more well incendiary. Will the violence only obstruct the message of the peaceful activists, or does it serve a purpose in bringing about change?

Well, we spent the week scrambling to bring you this special emergency edition of Factually and believe it or not we have found the perfect person in America to talk to us about this topic today.

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