Welcome to part two of our conversation about the other side with Timothy Shaw.

I think this has said far too often on this show now is demon is overused, and we all know that.

But I address it so often because it is such a thing.

And it's always interesting to hear opinions on that.

When people jump to that conclusion and they jump to, oh, this is something dark, this is

something demonic, because it's not exactly what they expect or have already signed in

their mind what it should be.

I believe that that stuff is out there, but far more infrequent than what is made out to be.

How, what is it? Is there ever a way to to calm someone down who may immediately be jumping

to that conclusion to say, wait a second, this is not something demonic. This is just something

you don't recognize, but a second, this is not something demonic. This is just something you don't recognize.

But a way to make that identification. That's hard. And I'll tell you why, because it takes education.

It takes time. You have to sit down with that person, almost on a one-on-one basis,

listen to their concerns, and then come back and explain to them.

This is the way it works.

Our job, and my mentor always told me, Sharon Klingler, she from Ohio, was my mentor.

She's a really, it's a wonderful medium.

She always said that it's our job to empower the person in front of us.

And that person who's in front of us has to be the most important person in her life at that

time. You've got to be able to go and understand what may cause this negative stuff going to

happen. Is it A, really negative or are they jumping to

conclusions or B is it negative and it's scaring them? What are you going to do about it? I found that

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