Welcome everybody to the Ask a Cycling Coach podcast today. We are going to talk about crazy things massage guns. Do they work fainting if cyclists have a propensity for such things and we're also going to talk about peaking and we have Hannah in champ here Hannah auto for me Hannah.

To join us and to talk about that with coach Chad first things first that we have to congratulate Megan Hacken in she's amazing she's been a nurse are successful athletes podcasts before she just won the 24 hour world championships the world time trial championships again.

Amazing she did 478.8 miles or 770.5 kilometers and 24 hours 21.1 mile an hour average she held this point 6.5 I F she burned 15,000 calories and she only drank her calories she said with F2C nutrition is the brand that she was using.

She was second overall she only lost out to like a rising star over from Europe that came over for it but just an absolutely incredible she uses train to train.

She's super impressive everyone should go check it out look up Megan Hacken and we'll link to her Instagram profile in the description for this podcast she's amazing so congrats Megan pretty cool H.H.H.

Yeah it's impressive I can't even imagine doing that for her G's five six hours let alone 24.

Yeah super impressive yeah okay with that was jump into Johannes's question he says hey trainer road team thanks for the podcast and the amazing cycling specific information you all put out.

I was recently tempted to buy a Thera gun but resisted the urge as I was not sure on the actual measurable benefits of it on my recovery and these are the massage guns that we've all seen are percussive guns however you want to call them.

I've listened to Chad's deep dive on mobility and stretching many times so I now wonder what effect the massage gun or in fancy terms percussive therapy has on recovering and mobility.

I can imagine it reaches nooks and crannies that foam rolling and stretching can't target or that it has its own effect on the muscles and fascia would love a deep dive on the topic from Chad thanks for the amazing podcast Johannes.

Well Chad you had your plate full with other deep dives so I took this one.

So sorry Johannes but let's get into it first of all the theory behind these massage guns and how they work there's really two different things that you hear people reference them for.

In terms of how they work and then their benefits are separate from this but how they work.

Some people say it helps improve circulation which the research proves that there was a study that should oh basically just measured muscle temperature or skin temperature after you're using a massage gun and it increased and that's been repeated multiple times where researchers.

Yeah it does increase circulation there's others that say like it helps relieve knots and there seems to be not a lot of clarification on that after if it actually works.

But yes it doesn't need improved circulation and the whole point behind this and what they claim is that it helps you with recovery also that it could help you with performance so we're going to look into that and some other claims.

But first things first there's there's kind of like increasing buzz about them being dangerous and causing harm.

One of there's a study actually from 10 and colleagues in 2020 and I'm just going to read from this one it's a case about Rado myelosis a young Chinese woman with untreated iron deficiency anemia presented with fatigue and pain and her thigh muscles for three days and tea colored urine for one day after cycling and subsequently receiving her percussion gun treatment by her coach for the purpose of massage and relaxing tired muscles.

Muscle tenderness multiple hematomas were found on her thighs and her urine analysis indicated hemo globin the area I hope I said that right.

Her serum creatine kinase was reported as undetectably high a hallmark of serious muscle damage leading to a diagnosis of severe Rado myelosis.

If you look at the study and start to look into it a bit more she just did like 20 to 30 minutes of riding a bike in a like a spin bike in a gym and she did that for three days prior and this was not unprecedented she done this sort of thing regularly beforehand.

It's unknown however entirely if her coach was using it correctly also there is kind of like a.

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