you either do it or you don't if you don't do it stop wanting it right so if you want to become a VC you want to become a C level executive well guess what C level you're going to own a P&L you're going to be recruiting people you're going to be hiring people no no no it's not just I'm going to head it off to HR no no no you're going to be there recruiting like that means you're probably going to be talking to people on the street. You're going to be meeting with people, right? And a job,

basically, at the end of the day is it's illicit responsibilities. And guess who has to clean up most of the work at the end of the day? It's the CEO, right? Or even you as, as co-founder of the company, a lot of the stuff bubbles up to you that you don't want to deal with that you have to

deal with, like random bank stuff or things like that, right? And so, but a lot of people, I think, you know, when you go into the workforce, you're trying to think, oh, I want to be promoted. I want to become a VP, whatever. But that actually means more responsibilities. And I don't think people actually understand it. They just say that they want it. But you say okay well it's going to require you to do

x y and z it's like oh well that's not what i thought it was and i don't know this just been

bothering me a lot because people the level of entitlement i just can't take it yeah so let's go back

on this if you want to be promoted you're saying do it or don't but what if

you're in a corporation let's say I'm someone at single gray and account executive all right

I'm working with clients eventually I want to be the VP of client services and manage a team

eventually then I want to go from there to be a COO, and then I want to go to be the president, and then maybe one day CEO, if you'd be open to it. This is a hypothetical. Yeah. So what would I need to do in this scenario to get promoted? You know, it's interesting. Let me experience here. Let me, because I can, I've lived this experience experience okay okay i'll experience here and you tell me if this answers a question or not and then

if not i can i'm happy to answer more so i i've told you this story where when i've worked for

startups before when it was four day work weeks i would work seven days a week because i cared so

much about the company and i'd work like 80 plus hours a week. But there was no incentive

for me to work that hard. And I had to learn all these other things that my CEO never

taught me to learn, but I went to do it. And you have to figure it out. You have to M.I.H.

You have to make it happen over time. And so that's how i continue to grow and then eventually

it led to this thing right which was single grain it's like okay well how do you operate this company

that that's a failing and like all these things it's like oh how do you deal with these people

problems oh what SEO is not working anymore oh what do you do in that situation oh crap a bunch of people

are quitting at the same time oh what do you do oh we're not getting any leads anymore from neil what do you do right and everything's crumbling and guess what tough shit figure it out and most people just aren't willing to do that right and i'm not saying i'm the most amazing thing it's just you have to have a lot of resilience a lot of grit but don't expect these things to be handed to you if you're not willing to just, that's what I'm saying, do it or don't and stop wanting it. Look, I get what you mean. I agree with it. It's the same thing for you. Like, when you're in your teens or so, like, you're working your ass off and, like, you suffered and you paid the price for it and you got kicked in the nuts every day. And so like

do people think this is going to be easy i still get kicked in the nuts every day this is what business is you get punched in a face every day you're eating glass you get kicked in the nuts every day and sometimes this is not fun but like suck it up and i want to share a little about the single grain story because at

one point I was a 10% owner in single grain so the way Eric came about with single grain is

my cousin and one of our mutual friends AJ were owners in single grain everyone's on good terms

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