Divided Healthcare
The Dream
Little Everywhere
4.5 • 15.5K Ratings
🗓️ 7 February 2026
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
Adam Stone has spent years looking into the bad practices at the healthcare giant UnitedHeath He walks us through a lowlight reel of what he's uncovered in his reporting.
More of Adam's original reporting can be found at his news outlet, theexaminernews.com and the podcast Sick Care.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Jane Marie, and this is the dream. |
| 0:04.4 | Last fall, we brought you the first episode of a show we've been working on called Sick Care, hosted by Sean Cannon. |
| 0:10.9 | Sick Care is based on reporting by a small-town newspaper guide named Adam Stone, who, more than a few times now has broken alarming news about United Health and its subsidiaries. United Health Group is massive, |
| 0:23.6 | the seventh largest company in the world, worth almost half a trillion dollars. You've |
| 0:29.5 | surely heard of it, especially after its CEO, Brian Thompson, was murdered in Manhattan in 2024. |
| 0:36.2 | But Adams' reporting began years before that. |
| 0:40.0 | United Health is an insurance company, a health care service provider, meaning it owns |
| 0:44.8 | hospitals and employees doctors, under the name Optum. |
| 0:48.3 | It handles prescription drug coverage, services Medicare coverage under Medicare Advantage. |
| 0:54.7 | Optum Insight does analytics and software for the medical industry. |
| 0:58.8 | It also has arms that include data collection, billing, you name it. |
| 1:03.2 | This is what you hear referred to as vertical integration, where healthcare services |
| 1:08.0 | from on-the-ground providers to the buildings they work and to the software they use to track |
| 1:13.7 | and build the insurance you use to pay for those services |
| 1:16.5 | are all the same company, essentially. |
| 1:19.3 | United Health is the definition of a behemoth. |
| 1:22.4 | And many would say that what it's doing is probably illegal. |
| 1:33.7 | Music say that what it's doing is probably illegal. Today I'm talking to Adam about what he's found in his reporting, |
| 1:37.5 | which is a massive trove of unbelievable stories he published over at a small town newspaper |
| 1:42.8 | that he owns and reports for. And I have to |
| 1:45.8 | stress this. I think it's important. This is a real old-timey operation, which I have a ton of |
| 1:51.8 | respect for. Boots on the ground reporting, no giant corporate interests, news for news sake. |
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