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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Diversity and Inclusivity: Fashion’s Missed Opportunity (Joan Smalls, Hari Nef, Tim Blanks and Ivan Bart) | BoF VOICES

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2017

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

At #BoFVOICES 2016 Tim Blanks chaired a discussion on diversity and inclusion between president of IMG Models Ivan Bart, mixed-race model Joan Smalls and transgender American actress and model Hari Nef.

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0:00.0

Diversity and inclusivity in the modeling industry is a topic that's been discussed at length.

0:09.7

But in order to have a really broad and deep and well-informed conversation, you need to have the right people around the table.

0:18.0

So that's why we asked Ivan Bart, Joan Smalls, and Harry Neff to speak

0:23.1

with B-O-F's very own Tim Blanks to discuss why and how the modeling industry has based these problems

0:30.5

over so many years, and to give us a reality check that the problems are far from solved. So here's a talk

0:37.3

from Voices 2016 with Ivan

0:39.8

Bart, Joan Small's Harry Neff on fashion's missed opportunity. Just a quick note, this conversation

0:47.5

was recorded live in front of an audience, so please excuse any audio issues. Well, I think we can

0:54.0

just pick up with James left off.

0:56.0

And with each of the people on the stage,

0:59.0

I would like them to personalize the experiences they've had

1:05.0

in the fashion industry of the various forms of discrimination that James is talking about.

1:15.6

Ivan, I'd like to start with you because you're an agent and you will have a clear idea

1:21.6

from your time in the industry of what is wrong and what needs to be made right.

1:26.6

Well, first I'd like to say how much, you know, that impassioned plea from James.

1:34.3

I mean, working for me, for 30 years in the industry to work,

1:38.3

that's a privilege to work with someone's who impassioned, that they're brought to tears.

1:43.3

My job, however, is to fight against it.

1:46.0

So, I mean, that's why, you know, models have managers,

1:51.0

and we're there to fight the battles of what needs to be done and addressed.

1:57.0

And, you know, whether it's about the amount of time they're on set or

2:01.6

getting them food to eat I-MG models we have amassed an army of people to

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