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The Proof with Simon Hill

Ditching diet dogma and why insulin isn’t the bad guy | Thomas DeLauer

The Proof with Simon Hill

Simon Hill

Nutrition, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.93.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2023

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

Episode #265. Escaping an echo chamber and admitting that you have changed your mind ­– particularly when you have a large, engaged audience – is no easy feat. In this conversation, I sit down with Thomas DeLauer to break down some of the existing walls between different dietary camps, opening the conversation around nuance and an open-minded approach. We cover: Intro (00:00) Simon makes assumptions about Thomas DeLauer (5:03) Thomas on working out (6:58) Biohacking (8:37) Cold plunges and saunas (9:35) Thomas DeLauer and alcohol (15:51) Tea or coffee (18:50) Battling and overcoming obesity (20:39) Low-carb vs low-fat diet (31:06) Unprocessed vs. ultra-processed diets (39:04) Benefits of CGM for non-diabetic (47:10) Saturated fat and insulin resistance (52:09) What Thomas and Simon's diets look like (1:02:29) Do we need fibre? (1:10:18) Food intolerances (1:17:40) Changing lifestyle after traumatic event (1:23:17) Strategies for a healthier lifestyle (1:26:15) Calorie Counting and Intermittent Fasting (1:28:26) Thomas DeLauer on Vegan diet (1:35:46) Choosing different diets and finding common ground (1:37:40) Roy Taylor's research on Losing Weight (1:43:47) How Sleep Deprivation affects your diet (1:51:01) Outro (1:56:14) For more insights like the ones shared in this episode, head to Thomas’ YouTube channel or check out his book, Intermittent Fasting Made Easy. You can also connect with him on Instagram and his website, https://thomasdelauer.com/. Enjoy, friends. Simon Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family. Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube or listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Nourish your gut with my Plant-Based Ferments Guide Download my complimentary Two-Week Meal Plan and high protein Plant Performance recipe book

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0:00.0

Quick one. My team tells me we actually have very few reviews relative to the weekly audience

0:07.4

numbers. This is no doubt my fault, as I've always felt a little weird about asking you

0:12.2

to do something for me. But clearly, if you don't ask, you don't get. So if you're enjoying

0:17.6

the show, if it's providing you value, please take 30 seconds and leave a review on Apple

0:22.6

or Spotify. In doing so, you'll help the show rank higher, which means we can continue

0:27.5

to attract the brightest and most trustworthy people in science. My team and I have big

0:32.2

plans for the show where we want to be in 24 months and we need your help to make this

0:36.7

possible.

0:37.7

You know, I broke out of what I called the echo chamber a few years ago and my eyes just

0:44.8

don't into a lot of things. So if you and I were both at one calorie above our maintenance,

0:52.2

we were both in surplus and you ate a bunch of monoinsaturated fats and I ate a bunch

0:56.0

of saturated fat. Arguably, the research suggests that I am going to reduce my insulin

1:02.4

sensitivity more than you. That's a very real thing. And I think that the low carb community

1:07.8

should take a lesson from that because unfortunately, we have this such a dogmatic view that we're

1:14.2

not willing to look at that. I don't want my kids to grow up and be like, oh, my dad was

1:19.2

the one the side at guy. I need to look at the bigger picture. I've got the resources

1:23.3

now. I've got the team. It would be irresponsible for me not to. I really, truly sincerely want

1:28.9

them to look at the internet and say, wow, my dad was pretty even killed and he was cool.

1:37.4

Welcome back to another episode of The Proof. I'm Simon Hill, your show host. Today's guest

1:43.8

is Thomas DeLauer. Many of you may already be familiar with Thomas as he boasts an impressive

1:50.6

YouTube channel with a staggering three million subscribers and 15 million monthly views.

1:57.6

I first encountered Thomas approximately eight years ago when he ardently advocated for

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