Hello everyone and welcome to police off the cuff.

Real Crime Stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

Welcome to the late night show.

All our friends from the West Coast.

You get to see us at a reasonable hour. It's only 7 p.m. in the West Coast, 10 p.m. in the East Coast and all areas in between. Hopefully it's a little earlier for you.

Folks from across the pond pond there are many of

them in the chat just welcome to a different time we're doing the show at a different hour a little bit

later for us and I can force professor Mike Geary who's busy back at school teaching for him to burn

that the late night oil and come on

the show. And he's agreed to do so tonight. He's going to be with us tonight. So, you know,

the Jody Hildebrand, Ruby, Frankie case, the case will never go away seemingly till they're

sentenced and they go to prison,

which is, of course, going to happen.

And WUTV of Utah did a great synopsis on the show,

and we're going to show some of it later.

But it's an unbelievable case for the fact that for all the years

that these two here bad people, you know, doing horrific

things, that they were allowed to ply their trade without being discovered for the abusive

people they are.

I remember that word distortion and connections.

That was course,

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