Hello, hello, it's Brooke Tvard and you are listening to the Naked Beauty podcast.

You've already seen it from the title of this episode, but yes, a few weeks ago, I had

the chance to interview John Legend and me, Grammy Oscar and Tony winning John Legend,

someone whose music I have admired and loved for years.

And we got to sit down in his space.

Ian Chrissy have a home dedicated to content, like a content house.

Some people have a room where they shoot content, they have a whole home.

This is where he records his music, where Chrissy does cooking videos and shoots.

And so naturally, I've stored this in my brain as a future goal for myself.

Like, I just want to house dedicated to creating content.

And from the moment that I arrived, from the moment that we walked in to set up for

the interview, everyone on the team was so warm and gracious.

And John was just truly so much fun to interview.

Now, talking to men about beauty is always interesting, because I think they don't usually

see themselves as included in the beauty conversation, or they don't necessarily feel the same societal

expectations to present in a certain way that women do.

But one of the things that struck me as I reflected on my conversation with John was that

his entry point to beauty was not being ashy.

And I think that this is a unique experience that many black or brown kids have.

You may not view it as a beauty ritual, but you're getting lotion down, shape better

down, cocoa better down.

You were being moisturized every time you get out of a bath.

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