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Dispatches from the New American Shore

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

When writer Elizabeth Rush visited neighborhoods already transformed by rising seas, she noticed that many people did not use terms like “climate change.” They still talked about it – it’s just that they talked about it in terms of their own experiences: the dolphins, swimming in tidal creeks further inland than ever before… how the last big flood wasn’t gradual, but fast and sudden. In this episode, we’re looking for new ways to discuss climate change with Elizabeth Rush, author of Rising: Dispatches from the New American Shore. While some books about climate change are heavy on politics and UN reports, Rising is not that. Instead, Elizabeth focuses on the people, species, and communities on the leading edge of sea level rise, from New York to California, Louisiana and even to the mountains of Oregon.   “A good friend of mine… was like, ‘This is the first climate book I've also read that has zero quotes from politicians.’ That wasn't purposeful, but I looked back and was sort of proud of that,” Elizabeth said.   SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In.  Subscribe to our newsletter. Follow Outside/In on Instagram and Twitter Join our private podcast discussion group on Facebook    LINKS Elizabeth Rush's website Rising: Dispatches from the New American Shore   CREDITSHosted by Justine Paradis and Felix PoonReported, produced, and mixed by Justine ParadisEdited by Rebecca LavoieAdditional editing: Taylor Quimby, Felix Poon, and Jessica HuntExecutive producer: Rebecca LavoieTheme: Breakmaster CylinderAdditional music by Chris Zabriskie and Blue Dot Sessions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is Outside In, a show about the natural world and how we use it.

0:08.0

I'm Justine Paradise.

0:09.8

And I'm Felix Poon.

0:11.2

Felix, you know that feeling when you learn that a thing that you've observed that there's actually

0:17.4

a word for it? Like you didn't know that there was a word for a particular phenomenon,

0:21.8

but it does have a name.

0:23.3

Yeah, a word that comes to my mind is I've been learning some Portuguese and one Portuguese word

0:28.5

being so dodgy.

0:29.7

I don't know that one.

0:30.5

Which is kind of this nostalgia or longing for these old memories.

0:37.3

It's like both good and bad.

0:39.3

It's like bitter sweet, maybe, is kind of like the best equivalent in English.

0:44.8

Yeah, it's an interesting one.

0:46.7

And I often feel, you know, when I learn that someone else and many, many people have described

0:52.4

this phenomenon I'm observing, it's like suddenly I get to experience it in a new way.

0:57.5

And I feel like recognized somehow.

1:00.7

And the way writer Elizabeth Rush puts this is that it's almost like something gets unlocked

1:06.6

and the word is like a key.

1:09.5

So as I started to spend a lot of time in coastal wetlands,

1:13.2

I started to notice this really strange phenomenon that in every single wetlands ecosystem

1:19.9

that I was visiting many of the hardwood trees were dead.

1:27.6

The word for the phenomenon Elizabeth is describing is Rampike, R-A-M-P-I-K-E.

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