I'm John Datsun with Victor Davis Hanson of the Hoover Institution.

The professor is a classicist, writing most recently, the dying citizen, how progressive

elites, tribalism, and globalization are destroying the idea of America.

It is obvious that the Roman Empire was the first iteration of globalization.

We are several more advanced from that, but it's surprising how the pattern repeats itself.

Victor, let's do some history here in 1965, the Heart Cellar Act,

rethinking immigration into America, migration into America, people who came to America for

either to send remittances home or to resettle without going through the ordinary process of applying

for U.S. citizenship. You write that it is now regarded, not you. You report that it is now

regarded one of the most, if not the most, thoughtless of the great society. How so?

How did it change things? It destroyed the whole idea of meritocracy. So it basically said

whether you have a bachelor's degree or a definable skill or some capital or some fluency

with English, it doesn't matter anymore. We're going to privilege family relationships and to be

frank proximity to the border. It was done in an on holy alliance from the Ted Kennedy wing

of the Democratic Party and the corporate wing of the Republican Party. They basically said,

corporations said we need cheap labor, not just for agriculture. Snell is only 20% of illegal labor,

but meat packing, hospitality, restaurants, hotels, etc. We're willing to open the borders

to get cheap labor and then the left said we want new constituents because our agenda basically

is no longer appealing to 51% of the people. So we brought in since that act about 50 million people

and we have now a continual pull, they go in and out, people become legal residents or

then citizens, but we have about 50 million people who are not born in the United States and California

27% of the population was not born in the United States and it's estimated that people here illegally

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