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Guaranteed Human.

Body facts with Joseph Scott Moore.

I've always had an affinity for the phrase looking for a needle in a haystack.

And it seems extreme.

It really does.

You know, when you first hear that term, you're thinking,

my Lord, how, you know, how granular is this bit of information that you're looking for,

that it is this complex in order to kind of, I don't know, tease it out of everything else that surrounds it.

And I've worked cases like that where you walk onto a scene.

I have vivid memories, and these are the worst,

vivid memories of walking into death scenes of people that have died in their apartments,

and they are orders.

And it's a nightmare scenario.

It's as bad as you might think that it is because you're trying to understand why this person is dead.

And it would be very easy to dismiss them and say, well, they had these issues and that sort of thing.

But still, you never know what is hidden

within those canyons of stacked newspapers and old magazines and saved beer cans

and all manner of things I've seen in these apartments today though we're going to

talk about a case that's currently in the news, or what we think might be cases.

We don't really know yet.

But what we do know is that authorities are now apparently on the hunt, on the search of their own local haystack, looking for not one, but maybe two needles.

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