Hey, you got to try this listeners.

You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. And Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hey, everybody, welcome on back. And so you've got to try this podcast with me, Large. It's Ian behind the ones and twos. And then immediately to the right of me is our guest this weekend. It's Chris Clemer, Mr. Clemer, if you're nasty. He's the host, the guy who came up with and the, um, will be godfather of rat race, which is now in its fourth iteration. Sixth iteration. Well, five we've put five or out. Yeah. So we're out on, it's coming out in February. February, we're going to have the sixth rat race drop.

I was, I have the dubious distinction of being the first person ever knocked out of rat race on the very first rat race on the very first challenge.

Correct.

Because I was smarter than everyone.

I'm so much smarter than everyone. So I said, I'll just bring my car. And I'm going to fucking crush this thing because New York doesn't have traffic. It never has. And it hasn't been known for traffic. And I pull up, I think the first I'm not going to give it. Oh, you can get a white. So by way you go on to YouTube, you search it, watch the old ones, and then obviously when the new one comes out in February, we'll pump this shit out of it on this show too, just to remind you because one of our future, our guests right now is doing it. So we go down the first clue and rat race for people who don't know, it's sort of like a treasure hunt where Clemer gives you clues.

Then all of a sudden you figure them out.

And then you go to, you're in different cities and you have to run to whatever that clue, the answer is.

So for example, the first one that we had, he said something about like Richard Mull and in the hotbed of capitalism. I was like, oh, the Wall Street Bull because he played Bull on night court. There you go. And nothing could be more intimate to me. I used to eat lunch under the Bull's balls. So myself and my partner at the time, Jeff, jumped in the car, got there dead last. Everybody was already sitting there. They're basically waiting for me to do it.

So I got out of my car. Clemer's like, get back in your car. I got back in my car and I drove the fuck off and that was it. Never to be seen again. But so, and for people who haven't watched it all the way through, it's physically taxing. There's a lot of people here who sign up for it. And I will tell you,

Yeah,

knows very well.

Everybody who signs up for it

from the production end,

um, There's a lot of people here who sign up for it. And I will tell you, he knows very well. Everybody who signs up for it from the production end and the talent end, they all have the same thing. And it's not like, I have fun. Clemer's a great guy. And even though those might be true, they're all like, we were fucking exhausted. We were exhausted. So it's like growing and growing. and I'll say this about we just did one in San Francisco. It's going to come out in February. It is by far the most strenuous one we've done. I had spoke to, I'm not going to say anything about it, but I spoke to one of the contestants. And he was actually angry with the amount of fucking running that he had to do, particularly there isn't a flat surface. It's San Francisco. It's a bigger city. I mean, as far as like spread out, like we've done some in New Orleans where we kind of kept at more of the French Quarter or other cities we've done. New York, you can kind of rely more on public transportation. Sure. With the hills and how big San Francisco is from a square mile its perspective, it was a lot.

Yeah.

So rat race is his thing.

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Every day.

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