We are live now on the conversations that matter podcast. I'm your host John Harris and we have with us someone who's actually been on the podcast before returning against Arin McIntyre how you doing are well thanks for

having me well thank you for coming on I know you're a busy busy guy you're probably

doing a lot of interviews for your new book which is what we're going to talk

about called the total state.

How's that going? How are sales? How's this being received so far? It's been out what a few

weeks now? It's actually just been in its first week but it's been going

pretty well. Went ahead and hit number two on the censorship in politics

on Amazon.

So that was nice.

Been, like you said, I've been doing a lot of press.

It's been pretty wild, the amount of interviews

you gotta pack in for this thing.

It's my first book, so I've've never I've never done this before but it's been fun.

Well that's my first question for you then because I read the introduction and I've been impressed by your

political commentary and your social media interaction too.

You get a lot of interaction and I had not heard of you before maybe, I must have heard about you a year ago or so.

And it seems like your political journey,

even though you were conservative,

2020 really accelerated it.

It made you realize some things and I'm just impressed that this has come

together for you in such a short period of time. So like maybe talk about that a little more with us.

Did you just start reading political philosophers more?

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