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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Discussing the Context of the US Bombing Iran with Robert Malley

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Robert Malley, lead negotiator of the 2015 Iran Nuclear Deal, joins WITHpod to talk about the unraveling of the deal under Trump’s first administration and the context that provides for the latest developments in the region.

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0:00.0

As the dust is still settling, we're in a situation where the Iranians probably want to bomb more than they did in the past.

0:12.0

We know less about what they're doing than we did in the past because we don't know where they put the high enriched Iranian.

0:17.0

We don't know whether they have, how much they've been able to hold on to.

0:21.8

So greater aspiration, less visibility is not a good combination.

0:30.9

Hello and welcome.

0:31.9

Why is this happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

0:50.6

I'm speaking to you on June 25th, and the reason I make the date is because I want to tell you what's happened so far, which is that the U.S. sent a number of bombers to bomb nuclear sites in Iran.

0:55.9

We did this after the Israelis had started a military operation, attacking Iran with missiles. Iranians had retaliated against Israel. At first, it seemed that Trump was telling Netanyahu

1:02.5

not to attack Iran. Then, according to the reporting, he was watching Fox News where they were

1:06.9

super psyched about what Netanyahu was doing. He got jealous of all the credit Netanyahu was getting. He then mobilized U.S. forces to do it. In fact, they had to kind of use

1:15.8

a bunch of misdirection because he was being so sort of straightforward with people about what he

1:20.4

was going to do. The mission dropped these MOP bunker buster bombs on these deep nuclear sites.

1:26.8

As I speak to you now, it's unclear whether they

1:30.2

obliterated, as the president says, those nuclear sites, or they did minimal damage, setting back

1:35.1

the program just a matter of months. Also then, the president unilaterally declared a ceasefire on

1:40.6

social media and got very angry at the Israelis who in the last six hours before the

1:45.3

ceasefire went to effect sent a enormous barrage towards Iran, which is something they've done

1:49.7

numerous times when there's been announced ceasefires. They do a sort of huge show of force

1:54.1

in the waning hours that they can. Iran also retaliated in the waning hours. He cursed at reporters

2:00.4

because he was so frustrated,

2:01.6

and he says he thinks the peace between the two who have been fighting for thousands of years will

2:04.9

last forever. And the reason I give you all that is because when you hear this, it's possible

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