We are live now on the Conversations That Matter Podcast. I'm your host John Harris. We have a discussion today on a book called How to Be a Conservative by Roger Scruten.

And this is a book that I read, well actually listen to on audio books

the first time around a few years ago,

and it was I think the second or third maybe a second book I had read from Roger

Scrutin I also watched his documentary I think I was the first introduction I had was his

documentary I think it's called Why Beauty Matters and

Roger Scrutin is a philosopher he knows a lot about political philosophy and

writes about it but I think he's probably more prominently known as a, I don't even know what the word would be, like someone who knows about beauty and, um, and architecture and those kinds of things.

Aesthetic, I don't know if Aesthetic Sist is the word for it,

but that's the branch of philosophy that he's into,

Aesthetics more than anything else. But he's into, aesthetics more than anything else.

But he's become, he's not around anymore,

he died a few years ago, but he's become

somewhat of a major figure on the right. And he has a broad appeal. So people who even consider themselves

neo-conservative, some of them even like Roger Scrin. But I think he's more often categorized among

more old right paleo-conservative types, although he's British. So the politics is a little different in

Great Britain

than it is in the United States.

But he's very smart, very honored today

in conservative circles. and I've heard someone I don't remember who

describe him as a modern Edmund Burke like if Edmund Burke was around today

he would probably sound somewhat like Roger Scrutin and of course

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