Hey friends, welcome to the Rhythms for Life Podcast where each week we talk about four rhythms

that help you reduce stress and anxiety and take charge of your emotional health. Rest,

restore, connect, create. These ideas come from Rebecca's best-selling book,

Rhythms of Renewal, trading stress and anxiety for a life of peace and purpose. So grab your

copy, invite your friends and let's live in rhythm.

Hi, this is Gabe Lyons and welcome to another Rhythms for Life Podcast. I'm solo today,

but the conversation you're about to listen to with Rebecca and I, I think you're going to enjoy

as we sit down with a couple of leaders who have thought about the idea of calling quite a bit.

And I know as you guys understand, this is such an important part of the conversation of mental

health is finding meaning and so many times that can seem like a little bit of a concept and not

reality for most people and that's why today we wanted to have a conversation around calling and

what does it mean to discover that? How do you start to find your purpose? How do you practically do

that? And then if you're raising teenagers like we are, how do you help cultivate that within your

children? Well, the authors of the book, Stephanie Shackleford and Bill Denzel wrote a book called

you on purpose, discover your calling and create the life you were meant to live. And what I'm excited

about here is the discussion we have about what does it mean to understand calling, but then to

create the life. How do you build the life? How do you start to create and manufacture structure

around purpose that you feel called to create? And what are the limits of that? What are the

questions that come up in that conversation? And so I'm excited for you to listen to that.

Welcome to the podcast Stephanie and Bill. Thank you. Thanks for having us.

Yeah, we love the conversation. We're about to have with you guys because

anything that deals with meaning and purpose and considering kind of the crisis that's happening

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