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The Man Enough Podcast

Discovering the Real Me: Acting, Identity, and Embracing Your Truth with Brian Michael Smith

The Man Enough Podcast

Wayfarer Studios LLC

Education, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Mental Health

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

We dive deep into the life of trailblazing trans actor and activist Brian Michael Smith, known for his portrayal of firefighter Paul Strickland on Fox's "911 Lone Star." As a strong advocate for trans representation, visibility, and education (12:25), Brian discusses his transformative journey to self-acceptance (04:14), overcoming people-pleasing (20:20), being featured in People's Sexiest Man Alive issue (03:14), and the importance of embracing change (54:01). Don't miss this inspiring conversation with a champion for trans representation, visibility, and education. New episodes every Monday 🎙️ Special video clips each week on https://youtube.com/WeAreManEnough Sign up for the Man Enough newsletter to get full video episodes and positive masculinity news every Monday: http://manenough.com/newsletter The Man Enough Podcast is produced by Wayfarer Studios and presented by Procter and Gamble, in partnership with Cadence13, an Audacy company. Timecodes: 0:00 For Brian, the journey to becoming the man he is today hasn’t always been easy 03:14 Being People’s Sexiest Man Alive 04:14 Being a man was denied to Brian for most of his life. 12:25 How do you decide who to spend time educating and who to ignore? 20:20 People pleasing stood in the way of Brian’s authenticity 30:49 The difference between sex, gender, identity, and gender expression 48:33 It’s important to be seen as more than a “trans” man 54:01 Try not to resist change 57:21 What does it mean to be man enough? Quotes: “You might not have to figure it all out. You might just need to know that some people are different…” - Brian Michael Smith “My manhood was acquired, it wasn't inherited…A lot of the investigation that the men on this show are doing is [an] investigation that I’ve had to do for a very long time.” - Brian Michael Smith “Everything is a story, one you’ve been made to believe or chose to believe. Knowing the difference is profound.” - Christopher Rivas “We are always transitioning, everything is transitional” - Christopher Rivas “For those who have the grace and compassion and mercy to help the world get to a better place, I am truly grateful.” - Jamey Heath About Brian Michael Smith: Brian Michael Smith is an American trans actor and queer activist, best known for his roles in popular television shows such as "Queen Sugar" and "9-1-1: Lone Star." Smith is also an advocate for LGBTQ rights and has appeared on several talk shows and panels to discuss issues facing the transgender community. Brian is notably on the Board of Directors for Outfest and Outfest Fusion (https://www.outfest.org). Guest Social Links: Instagram: @the_brianmichael Twitter: @TheBrianMichaelSmith Guest Host: Christopher Rivas Christopher Rivas is an actor, author, podcaster, and storyteller. He is the host of two podcast series with SiriusXM's Stitcher: Brown Enough, and Rubirosa. On screen, Rivas is known for his work on the Fox series, Call Me Kat. He has recently released his first book Brown Enough, which explores what it means to be Brown in America. Special Thanks Thank you LMNT for supporting our show! Head to https://drinklmnt.com/manenough to get a free LMNT sample pack with any purchase. Man Enough Newsletter: https://manenough.com/newsletter Man Enough book: https://manenough.com/books Boys Will Be Human book: https://boyswillbehuman.com FOLLOW THE HOSTS: Liz Plank https://instagram.com/feministabulous https://tiktok.com/@lizplank https://facebook.com/feministabulous https://twitter.com/feministabulous http://www.elizabethplank.com/ Jamey Heath https://instagram.com/jamey_heath_ https://tiktok.com/@jameyheath https://twitter.com/jamey_heath_ https://facebook.com/jameyjaz http://www.jameyheath.com/ Christopher Rivas: https://www.instagram.com/christopher__rivas https://twitter.com/chris__rivas https://podcasts.apple.com › podcast › brown-enough #boys #men #masculinity #feminism #transgender #acting #transition #confidence #selfdiscovery Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Coming up on Man Enough.

0:02.0

I realize the implication to the question,

0:05.0

when's the last time you felt man enough

0:07.0

with the very fact that that's been a journey possibly

0:10.0

and being a trans man?

0:11.0

Looking at who I've been outside of this one struggle that took a lot of my time and attention naturally, right?

0:16.5

And it's like, all right, I put all this energy and effort into just becoming a man and being seen as a man.

0:23.7

And then once I got there in my mid-20s,

0:25.6

it was like, well, what kind of man am I?

0:29.4

And then it's like, well, what kind of man do I want to be?

0:37.0

Being man enough, what does that mean? It's really manly to mess up, admit you're wrong, and then grow.

0:41.0

I couldn't accept that I was evil.

0:43.0

So maybe I'm broken, but those broken things could be corrected.

0:46.0

Intimacy between a father and a son is me just wanting to like put my head in your lap.

0:51.0

I love you son. You haven't called me a benevolent sexist but my experience

0:56.1

is women are better. Even if it's a positive it's still not equality. I don't blame men for that.

1:02.0

I just blame the system this is man enough

1:07.0

you are listening to man enough. It is me Christopher Rivas. I am guest hosting I'm very

1:16.6

grateful I got Liz to my left I got Jamie to my right how y'all doing.

1:20.5

So good man you got to be here all the time and do that.

1:24.0

But you are sitting in for Justin Baldoni.

1:27.0

It's an honor.

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