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But first on the news banter, diversity in pilot season, James Corden launches the Late Late Show,

and The Sun Will Set on Downton Abbey.

Stay tuned, it's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my partner in banter, Michael Schneider, of TV Guide magazine.

Hello, Michael.

Well, so quite a flap in Hollywood this past week or so.

There was a story.

We're in the middle of pilot season in the thick of it, and lots of casting, casting, casting, big obsession in Hollywood now, who gets cast, what gets picked up.

And at one of the trades, Deadline ran a piece, attempting to make a point, that what with the success of some shows that feature non-Caucasian actors, such as blackish and most notably empire on Fox.

There is a big drive to get what is called in the business ethnic actors.

And what this article was trying to say is that maybe after years of white actors getting the best of everything and the first cut, maybe the pendulum has swung too far. And now everybody is in this Hollywood feeding frenzy of trying

to cast these quote unquote ethnic actors. And wow, there was quite a backlash, perhaps

unsurprisingly. Yeah, folks like Shonda Rimes went on Twitter and said, well, this article

makes no sense. You know, whites have basically controlled television forever since the beginning

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